tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post9193588426551417497..comments2023-11-18T03:15:19.102-06:00Comments on Straight From Hel: It’s Not Over ‘til It’s OverHelen Gingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-27403787122081371072009-05-01T18:50:00.000-05:002009-05-01T18:50:00.000-05:00Thanks for such an informative post, Helen. I've f...Thanks for such an informative post, Helen. I've followed the case with some trepidation (and a whole lot of confusion!) for some time now. I'm glad the Justice Department will finally be taking a look.Elizabeth Spann Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15625595247828274405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-26084359229458413442009-05-01T18:11:00.000-05:002009-05-01T18:11:00.000-05:00Lisa, this feels like more of a book grab than a s...Lisa, this feels like more of a book grab than a scam, although it may be that as well.<br /><br />Enid, it is too much legalese. And to think I used to want to be a lawyer!Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-54030386109060988722009-05-01T17:44:00.000-05:002009-05-01T17:44:00.000-05:00Wow, so much legal stuff going on...Wow, so much legal stuff going on...Enid Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248877161249788607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-35907151675905289942009-05-01T14:57:00.000-05:002009-05-01T14:57:00.000-05:00Boy, just when you think every possible book scam ...Boy, just when you think every possible book scam has already been dreamed up! Unbelievable. I'd heard of this, but appreciate the good info/explanation here. Makes it a lot clearer. No HAPPIER, just clearer.<br /><br />--Lisa<br />http://authorlisalogan.blogspot.comLisa Loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18259624498661417075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-40966171884854258122009-05-01T13:28:00.000-05:002009-05-01T13:28:00.000-05:00Jan, the Association of American Publishers is als...Jan, the Association of American Publishers is also involved in this. But as writers, our biggest source of info and help is the Authors Guild.<br /><br />Jon, I am no lawyer, for sure, but it appears the big sticking point is not books that are in print or soon to be in print. It's books that are out of print, even though they are still copyrighted. That and that Google appears to be the one who gets to decide what they deem inappropriate and can take down.<br /><br />If you live in the Austin area, you can catch Roy Blount, head of the Authors Guild, on May 27. ($50)Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-9089085085702530982009-05-01T11:39:00.000-05:002009-05-01T11:39:00.000-05:00Hi, Helen. Perhaps you know, so I'll throw it out ...Hi, Helen. Perhaps you know, so I'll throw it out there.<br /><br />One of the things I've always wondered about is how this proposed Google settlement, and whether or not an author/publisher opts works for folks like me - unpublished authors, or even yet unpublished or even unwritten works by established authors. Even though I have yet to publish anything, does that mean I still need to notify Google that I want to opt out in the event that I do publish something? Does Dan Brown have to opt out for his new book coming out later this year? This whole thing just seems completely unworkable to me. <br />~jonJ. M. Stortherhttp://jmstrother.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-61322116446755355192009-05-01T11:34:00.000-05:002009-05-01T11:34:00.000-05:00Hi Helen,
Great topic. I've been trying to figure ...Hi Helen,<br />Great topic. I've been trying to figure this out for months, sat in on the Author's Guild, phone conference, and have an email into my agent, hoping he understands it. It's just unbelievable that Google could do this in the first place. And why is that authors have to lead this charge and not the Publishers with their resources?Jan Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323983086318138814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-15969150821211850192009-05-01T10:24:00.000-05:002009-05-01T10:24:00.000-05:00Thank you Christina -- and esp. thanks for includi...Thank you Christina -- and esp. thanks for including the link.<br /><br />It is crazy!Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-54693294437883736762009-05-01T08:59:00.000-05:002009-05-01T08:59:00.000-05:00Diane, you have to claim your books through Google...Diane, you have to claim your books through Google to have any right over whether Google posts them online. Go here: http://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/home. One of my older books is out-of-print (publisher went under), but I claimed it so Google can't call it an "orphaned work" and basically steal the rights to it.<br /><br />Or at least I hope. They have your books whether you want them to or not. They've made digital copies without your consent or knowledge. They may act like all they want is to have the largest online library in the world, but they also plan to profit from your work even though no one gave them that right. It is crazy and evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-16815372718342571872009-05-01T08:38:00.000-05:002009-05-01T08:38:00.000-05:00I sometimes think legalese was invented to confuse...I sometimes think legalese was invented to confuse the average person. Thank goodness we have the Authors Guild.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-33674641948030370282009-05-01T07:13:00.000-05:002009-05-01T07:13:00.000-05:00It's a Googley Gobbled up mess if ya ask me. Thank...It's a Googley Gobbled up mess if ya ask me. Thanks for keepin me abreast of the sitch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-75220118889958972402009-05-01T07:07:00.000-05:002009-05-01T07:07:00.000-05:00There is so much I don't understand about this who...There is so much I don't understand about this whole deal - like what happens to a book if an author opts out. I'm glad they are taking another look at the settlement and I hope I can better understand it when it comes out.<br /><br />Jane Kennedy Sutton<br />http://janekennedysutton.blogspot.com/Jane Kennedy Suttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12519340747761460017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-51075560727637020292009-05-01T06:28:00.000-05:002009-05-01T06:28:00.000-05:00Those points definitely need to be re-negotiated! ...Those points definitely need to be re-negotiated! I know a lot of authors and publisher who've been screaming about this settlement for weeks now. It gives Google too much control. I've a couple older, self-published books listed with Google (not by my choice) and while I'll take the approximately $60 per title settlement, I also want the right to remove those titles from their database.<br /><br />Let's see how they reword the new settlement...<br /><br />L. Diane Wolfe<br />www.circleoffriendsbooks.blogspot.com<br />www.spunkonastick.net <br />www.thecircleoffriends.netL. Diane Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425864276166334896noreply@blogger.com