tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post7065043066394509139..comments2023-11-18T03:15:19.102-06:00Comments on Straight From Hel: Beware The Devil’s HugHelen Gingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-3228604351566460312010-10-29T06:39:03.271-05:002010-10-29T06:39:03.271-05:00Great interview, Helen! This was very informative ...Great interview, Helen! This was very informative and enjoyable.<br />I'm in awe of Marvin's promotional tour...he's everywhere lately.Laura Enohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09982794146667832204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-65227120257791291092010-10-28T20:53:57.394-05:002010-10-28T20:53:57.394-05:00I enjoyed the interview, Helen.
I agree with Deb,...I enjoyed the interview, Helen.<br /><br />I agree with Deb, no author can final edit their book. It takes a professional, impartial editor to do a book justice and to see with fresh eyes what's really there rather than what an author intended or thinks is there.<br /><br />That's one thing that has impressed me about smart small presses. They realize that a professional editor is an absolute must. <br /><br />Marvin, I've enjoyed reading your different blog posts. I've missed a few but I do try to go back and find them.~Sia McKye~https://www.blogger.com/profile/08470562659597351033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-5495986031848993452010-10-28T19:31:10.050-05:002010-10-28T19:31:10.050-05:00Y'all are funny. I will tell you, though, that...Y'all are funny. I will tell you, though, that most acquiring editors like chocolate. So you might try that.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-24468766147915985952010-10-28T19:12:09.305-05:002010-10-28T19:12:09.305-05:00What bribe did Marvin send you? Naughty Marvin!
...What bribe did Marvin send you? Naughty Marvin!<br /><br /><a href="http://steamydarcy.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"> My Darcy Mutates…</a>Enid Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248877161249788607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-2032575756438113962010-10-28T18:50:47.530-05:002010-10-28T18:50:47.530-05:00I lived in the house of "Hugs" for sever...I lived in the house of "Hugs" for several days and now it's interesting to learn about the plumbing. We often don't hear much about the behind the scenes process of putting out a book and usually it's just about the author. <br /><br />Thank you for this look at an aspect that is of so much interest to those of us who are writers and looking forward to going through this process ourselves.<br /><br />Helen, this was a great presentation.<br /><br />Lee<br /><a href="http://tossingitout.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tossing It Out</a>Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-23177858771437482182010-10-28T18:25:21.576-05:002010-10-28T18:25:21.576-05:00Great interview - I love the point about no one pe...Great interview - I love the point about no one person being able to catch everything. That is sooooo true! :)Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-3050136796207065912010-10-28T16:40:02.443-05:002010-10-28T16:40:02.443-05:00Helen and Deb - you two are cracking me up! BTW, ...Helen and Deb - you two are cracking me up! BTW, the check are in the mail. (wink)<br /><br />Diane - true dat, honey!<br /><br />Sue - yes indeed, all part of the process, hmm?The Old Sillyhttp://theoldsilly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-58298670686370885412010-10-28T16:05:41.315-05:002010-10-28T16:05:41.315-05:00This is a really interesting insight into the whol...This is a really interesting insight into the whole authoring/editing process. Thanks for sharing. <br /><br />It surprised me how similar it is to working with tertiary students on their reports prior to submitting them for assessment. Even there, those repetitive habits creep in. And how frustrating when they refuse to follow advice, submit and get marked down for the clunky phrases. I guess it's all part of the learning process.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715879775216108688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-6681227186703698822010-10-28T13:23:43.282-05:002010-10-28T13:23:43.282-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-52765568471029071662010-10-28T12:36:07.188-05:002010-10-28T12:36:07.188-05:00A wise writer knows he cannot edit his own work!A wise writer knows he cannot edit his own work!L. Diane Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425864276166334896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-42267441439914309692010-10-28T11:57:05.551-05:002010-10-28T11:57:05.551-05:00Aw, c'mon, Helen, don't spoil my profits!
...Aw, c'mon, Helen, don't spoil my profits!<br /><br />Joking, folks, on the very off chance that any of you actually believe Marvin!<br /><br />-DebPhilip F. Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750984664636448594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-65758966784764375892010-10-28T11:47:32.659-05:002010-10-28T11:47:32.659-05:00Marvin, someone is gonna believe writers have to b...Marvin, someone is gonna believe writers have to bribe their acquiring editors! Just because you did it, that doesn't mean others should. ;-0Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-15829979563632061072010-10-28T11:34:21.597-05:002010-10-28T11:34:21.597-05:00Judy - glad you are curious - now FIND OUT! (wink)...Judy - glad you are curious - now FIND OUT! (wink)<br /><br />Katie - thank you!<br /><br />Alex - oooh yeah - an editor's initial fee is just the start. Ya gotta grease 'em a little, dude. lol<br /><br />Deb, YAY! Glad you're with us today. And Helen, I love the way you two are chatting and talking shop!<br /><br />Susan, yes, sometimes editors can be hard pills to swallow, lol, but it's for the book's best health, hmm?<br /><br />Kissie, well said! Hey everyone, Kissie is hosting the Grand Finale stop on Saturday - it promises to be a GREAT one, too!<br /><br />Laurita, teehee. ;)<br /><br />Mason, thanks for dropping in and the comment. :)<br /><br />J.L., drop the fear, buck up, and SUBMIT! A li'l Old Silly advice, lol.<br /><br />Maryanne - thanks for being here today!<br /><br />Liz - yes we authors do, hmm? How I got around the bulk of that problem in Hus is, I let one of the characters be a version of me. I let him use all my pet phrases, and when I caught another character using them I would change it - worked for me on this book.The Old Sillyhttp://theoldsilly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-45870615921101344052010-10-28T11:00:05.315-05:002010-10-28T11:00:05.315-05:00Nice interview! And I agree that it's really e...Nice interview! And I agree that it's really easy for certain pet phrases to sneak into a manuscript. I guess that goes hand in hand with a writer's voice--if we speak in our own voice, it's only natural that we use some of our favorite phrases. But it's so important to catch them before the book is printed if there are a lot of them!Elizabeth Spann Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15625595247828274405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-87277664730646267472010-10-28T10:45:42.931-05:002010-10-28T10:45:42.931-05:00I agree with that, Deb!I agree with that, Deb!Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-80796943194459661302010-10-28T10:25:23.422-05:002010-10-28T10:25:23.422-05:00You are so right, Helen! Again, it's that who...You are so right, Helen! Again, it's that whole striving for perfection thing. <br />And J.L. is right, too, when he says that doubt and insecurity creep in through the cracks. It's easy to over-think and second-guess yourself when you're self-editing, which is why Marvin and I agree totally that no author, even one who's an outstanding editor, should do the final edit on their own work.<br />-DebPhilip F. Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750984664636448594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-31311921050479427352010-10-28T10:13:35.337-05:002010-10-28T10:13:35.337-05:00New authors may think that when a publisher signs ...New authors may think that when a publisher signs you on, they like your manuscript and you've done your job of editing, but that's rarely true. There are more edits to come.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-73809502949512073232010-10-28T08:59:12.658-05:002010-10-28T08:59:12.658-05:00Enjoyed meeting Debra and getting to know more abo...Enjoyed meeting Debra and getting to know more about Marvin's book. It was helpful to get the insights from an acquiring editor.Maryannwriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479027709233807149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-46000418667937945682010-10-28T08:56:56.845-05:002010-10-28T08:56:56.845-05:00Love this interview! Lots of great information.
W...Love this interview! Lots of great information.<br /><br />With editing your own work before submitting to a publisher, I've taken this to the extreme. I have a project that I am becoming fearful of actually submitting it somewhere.<br /><br />I'm beginning to learn that, through time and excessive self-edits, while one can uncover the cracks of a project, doubt and insecurity can seep in through the cracks.<br /><br />Again, Great post with great info.True Life and Fictionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10194767305292360214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-42494528661776718522010-10-28T08:09:03.483-05:002010-10-28T08:09:03.483-05:00Two excellent points, Kissie.
Several of you are ...Two excellent points, Kissie.<br /><br />Several of you are picking up on the "bribes." ;-)Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-42906621660635684472010-10-28T07:35:24.034-05:002010-10-28T07:35:24.034-05:00Interesting interview. We get to know a little som...Interesting interview. We get to know a little something about the editor side of Marvin.<br /><br />Mason<br /><a href="http://www.masoncanyon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Thoughts in Progress</a>Mason Canyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935307400882363560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-1751633441597160422010-10-28T07:23:42.966-05:002010-10-28T07:23:42.966-05:00That is a seriously good title.
I'm re-reading...That is a seriously good title.<br />I'm re-reading this and taking notes (underlining the part about bribes).Lauritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03688820247531607677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-60888485579654797942010-10-28T07:18:14.535-05:002010-10-28T07:18:14.535-05:00Hi Helen,
Thank you for the introduction to Deb. ...Hi Helen,<br /><br />Thank you for the introduction to Deb. It was good to see what an editor thought prior to its final release and while in the making. <br /><br />I was just a little disappointed to know that ATTMP aren't particularly interested in children's books but I understand. I was given more information that should help me when it comes to looking for a publisher. That's a plus.<br /><br />So I'm just tagging along for the next 2 days and I'm taking this with me:<br /><br />1. The mind sees what the mind knows the mind meant! (Oh how this applies to more than just editing. I know it's something we all know but it's one of those things when you hear it, you only can think of one thing. PROFOUND)<br /><br />2. Don’t write by formula, and don’t try to write like someone you’re not. Write like you. (Adding this to my blogging checklist!)<br /><br />Thank you, Ladies. It has been a pleasure. :-)Kissiehttp://justkissie.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-48797330340327344492010-10-28T07:13:34.999-05:002010-10-28T07:13:34.999-05:00It's great to read about the editing process. ...It's great to read about the editing process. I sometimes find it bitter medicine but I swallow my editor's advice on faith in her knowledge and experience. <br />Good luck with your book, Marvin.Susan Gourley/Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669793865290876168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32918125.post-69942667337788340262010-10-28T06:51:34.690-05:002010-10-28T06:51:34.690-05:00Mornin' Deb. I used to stay up until 2 or 3 in...Mornin' Deb. I used to stay up until 2 or 3 in the morning writing, then sleep til 10 or 11, but alas I married a man who automatically wakes around 4 a.m. I've begun to take on his habits.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.com